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Sun, Mar. 4th, 2007, 01:32 am
swisscelt: Now what?

So now that EssJay has [apparently] left Wikipedia, and a cadre of administrators, stewards, and the like are doing their level best to sweep the whole incident under the rug, what's left to do? We're being told to discuss this on the Village Pump, but I see nothing there. On the Community Noticeboard, an ad hoc (and highly disorganized, IMO) discussion is brewing, but already people are calling for its closure.

I've said it before: This is serious. We can't just pretend that because this is happening on Teh Intrawebz it won't be taken seriously in the American media and, ultimately, American and other national societies. How Wikipedia deals with this is as crucial to the continuing survival of this enterprise as any corporate scandal was to their respective companies. It's time we ALL grew up: This is the real world, people.

Sun, Mar. 4th, 2007 02:47 pm (UTC)
perplexed_seal

The point is less that Essjay fucked up, but that Jimbo fucked up.

Given the likelihood of that happening again, as it has done in the past, there is a clear obstacle to the development of the project.
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Wed, Mar. 7th, 2007 01:22 pm (UTC)
cascadianista

After noting on Daniel Brandt's mugshot lineup how many of the exalted admin were born in the late 80s and early 90s, and seeing how many supportive comments and barnstars were gushed onto this charlatan's talk page, I'm not so interested in contributing as I have been.

Wed, Mar. 7th, 2007 10:36 pm (UTC)
swisscelt

Aye. I'll still contribute, as most of what I contribute is fairly uncontroversial stuff like information on US cities and villages, but I'm certainly going to think twice about contributing to another article that might involve me in an edit war. I don't want to be shouted down by a bunch of kids who haven't yet learned how to properly evaluate sources. Oh great... and now I see that [[WP:V]] has changed, thus making it even easier for original research and falsified claims to trump established sources.

I see the legacy of "Doctor" Essjay lives on. *grumble*